repeatedly when players have brought in cases about safety, the judges routinely say you've got disagreement, that controls it. >> they never said you knew i was going to get hurt and you let me. you encouraged me to get hurt. you coached me to get hurt. >> what about the penalties? there have been penalties on the book if you use your helmet, you -- >> that's recent. these are players from 1970. 75. >> you want it? i'll give you the quote. >> shepard: if there's water thrown or slapping, you're banned. >> we're going to follow greece and slap 'em around. >> shepard: you may. >> he may like it, though. what do you think? >> shepard: i don't know. it would not surprise me. >> afternoon audience, mercedes, please. >> keep it clean. >> shepard: it's prime time in london. it's 8:43 in the evening. sheo they just have little things come out of their mouths. still watching the jubilee celebration. come on london, queen. you missed the whole thing.