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production, enrichment? >> certainly they are getting very close to it. they've been pursuing this for over 20 years. its the regime's number one strategic objective is to obtain a nuclear weapon for the simple reason it guarantees the legacy of the regime, and that means they are willing to take all sorts of risks to get that weapon, short of losing the regime. that's why they are negotiations now as a ploy to delay the program -- not delay the program, delay the sanctions if they can get some concessions on it and they've done this on and off for the last ten years. juliet: yeah, i mean the secretary says he thinks we can achieve a quote, diplomatic solution. we are talking about an iran regime that consistently tphraupbts. it knows the rules and consistently breaks the rules and breaks agreements. >> well, i'm somewhat pessimistic about a diplomatic solution was that means the iranians would have to concede that they are not going to build

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