i commend jose rodriguez and all of this is colleagues, nameless, faceless colleagues that we will never know. i believe that americans are alive and possibly westerners elsewhere in the world and our own troop because of this waterboarding, mainly because of the enhanced interrogation program. only three people were waterboarded? >> well, more people were waterboarded in this room than we waterboarded in the whole time-- the one time only one who liked it was colonel north. i'm sorry. we are good friends. all right. thank you for being with us. coming up next, although president obama wants to pat himself on the back of the killing of the al qaeda mastermind, the navy seals deserve all the credit. i will be joined by three former members of that group, three hero, coming up next. for a hot dog cart. my mother said, "well, maybe we ought to buy this hot dog cart and set it up someplace." so my parents went to bank of america.