we need in this economy, so it's been a -- what i describe it as, harris, as a jobs recession. we're technically out of the official recession, but we're not out of the jobs recession, when you've got 38 straight months of more than 8 percent unemployment. harkat-ul-jihad-al-islami -- harris: i'm thinking one more thing, it pays people to stay home and lets the economy reset without millions of people already in it. i want to move forward to one thing that could be coming and that's a huge number of foreclosures. >> that makes it so much more difficult for people to find jobs. as you know, construction jobs are a big part of the economy. we've had almost no net new housing built in this country in the last three years. as we've seen, if you look at the unemployment numbers e. offer the last six months to a year, we're not seeing virtually any comeback in the construction industry. but that's actually, harris, the one area i'm somewhat hopeful on. i do think this is the one optimistic note i'll sound this morning, i do believe we've hit the bottom on housing and i think we're going to see a pickup as we