he is articulating what millions of americans believe. >> bill: there is no doubt about it you cannot say he in the mainstream with regard to what he says about satan. >> bill: i told you guys i don't want to debate theology here. >> if they will vote for him or not. >> bill: father, father, father. here is the electorate. the pastor is right when he says if santorum can get ahold of evangelical christians and some catholics and meld this populace movement. he might be able to overcome the secular behavior about imh they are going to define rick santorum as a crazy holler roller, elmer began tri kind of guy. we know they are going to do that. the "new york times" has already started that. in your opinion. this is what i thought you said was interesting, father. you don't think catholics are going to go big time for santorum? >> i don't. catholics vote in a very moderate way. you can't always predict how catholics will vote. they don't like extreme i.s,