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the debt debate committee meetings open to the public. what do you think of all this? >> you know, i've been watching pelosi this week because of her problems with insider trading. and what is it she says? what kind of point are you trying to make? i mean, the woman wouldn't even listen to the 5 1/2 hours if it were open to the public. >> that was kind of a bogus thing with her and visa, you know, did you really think she was insider trading? >> yes. >> i mean, it was -- >> neil: her point is it's cavalier dismissal. you select what you think is important. >> i think that was a cheap shot in terms of her insider trading. >> neil: off topic. you're off topic. get back to the topic. >> what was the question again? >> neil: no, the idea that this rage, upset about this and want to go keep it open. >> i agree. she's a hypocrite. always has been. what do you want me tsay? >> neil: all right. maybe the question -- adam? >> i just don't think she's

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