>> bob: good group. >> dana: if i were the communications person, i would be advocating for full sunlight on the investigation. let everything out and let the chips fall where they may. >> eric: you and i played for coaches. i played for coaches who were like coaches and owners of teams. they are god. you don't mess with coaches. when they start feeling like they're god -- and paterno would feel like a god, it's paterno. that could be part of the issue. i think we will find out more and more. people knew what was going on. it will get bigger, uglier. more victims. where is the ncaa? they have to come down so hard. >> bob: exactly. they wussed out again. >> eric: they have to get the death penalty. this is far worse than ohio state. >> kimberly: investigatory state.