stay there. >> for 36 years he has been the unflappable anchor of evening newscasts. >> i'm jim lehr in aware. >> chris: he as cam up with several theories. >> it's never about the moderator. you are talking about the moderator when it is over with. it is positively or negatively but in my opinion the moderator has failed. >> the key is to get them talking to each other. >> even when the rules prohibits -- >> he says there is another rule. no matter how fair you try to be. the moderator will always get criticized. >> you have a apple question for one, you better have a question for the other, too, some people are going to perceive you unfair no matter what.

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