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office next to the nuclear power button -- nuclear weapon button. >> greg: is that what it is really called? >> dana: no. >> bob: before we get out of here. >> dana: i was just saying that, whether it was started by a rival campaign, it was certainly spread by a rival campaign. we all heard from. >> bob: by the way, this is a good conversation about this, glad we got people who understand the press side of this thing. in the end, herman cain's mick tas here, classic textbook -- >> greg: he is not a politician. >> bob: but here is the thing. you don't contradict yourself in the same news cycle, which is what he did. the other thing i'd say if this was a four-figure settlement and this guy was -- five figure. if he was -- ten grand. and he was head of the association my guess is it's bigger than that. we know a lot of human relation departments get this thing.

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