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real and answer two questions for me. how high up in the iranian government did this go and what does it tell you about what was going none tehran right now? >> i was first briefed in the beginning of september. it sounded doubtful because of the cast of characters and the operative was the department 400, part of the iranian revolutionary guard, the elite unit that really is sent out by iran into various areas that finances terrorism et cetera. and i didn't believe it either. but as it turned out, it is very real. and what it represented was a rather unique effort between our drug enforcement administration, fbi, cia, a kind of coming together of agencies to collect intelligence both human and signals intelligence. >> chris: what is the single most compelling evidence that this is real? >> let me just finish. the case is dead bank i think.

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