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this, we will hear about this for six months and come to a head in a year and drama will return and it reinforces the point that chug made that this is now -- this isn't only in the national coptousness. on the agenda again and again. up with of the great achievements here is the debt creeling is no longer a nullity. the democratting are arguing why are we doing this? we raised it 78 times since 1960. without anything happening. that's the point. that's why we're in the trouble we are today. we ignored what was happening when we raised the debt ceiling. now because of the boehner rule, where he said a dollar of the debt ceiling increase has to be matched by dollar of spending cuts which jay carney is right, there is no logical connection, but now a political indellable

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