>> the topic just came up and -- >> not exactly. we were talking about his daughter. i didn't think that he could raise somebody that was capable of harming her child. and that's when he said it was an accident that snowballed out of control. but i was caught off guard with it. by the time i looked up he had tears in his eyes. and i didn't say anything after that. >> you were talking to him about his daughter and how you couldn't believe that he could raise a daughter that would deliberately kill her child? >> that's correct. >> what he said to you is, i really believe it was an accident that just went wrong, isn't that true? >> that misstates her statement. >> it does not. >> it does, judge gentlemen approach the sidebar and bring me the statement. >> her statement, page 16,