what just came out, the witness saying that she did not find any latent prints on the duct tape taken from the woods remains site but did find that heart-shaped dime size blue outline on the duct tape, suppose supposedly a sticker. that's just a little bit more information, arthur. what do you think. >> that's the point i was just saying is that the defendant, whoever hid this body is benefitting because the evidence is being deteriorated by water and the elements and bugs, et cetera, et cetera, in my opinion at this point joey is right there is a ways to go in the trial. at this point she gets convicted. maybe not of the top count which the prosecution has a very high burden of proving a lot of premeditation, because that's death penalty eligible, but in terms of a regular manslaughter or regular murder charge i think you're going to see a conviction. >> that is a win, though, art remember that. >> she goes to jail for life but she doesn't die. in whose book it's really a win?