i started working for him when i was 18 years old and henry kissinger's deputy at the white house. if you look back tha at that period it's a legendary period. we ended the vietnam war. it was the opening to china. first middle east peace negotiations, the first arms control agreements with soviet union and then when the soviet union probing up in the reagan administration, larry had a critical role in making sure that went smoothly and there was not a conflicts as a result of it. he is above and shoulders above anyone in his generation. >> gregg: he had a good sense of american adversaries, what motivated them, what might precipitate to act or not act. it was really extraordinary. >> he could -- he used to say about our boss, henry kissinger,