three swords this the meet the press interview. one is the food stamp issue, went nuts over. two the embrace of romney care and third of course the ryan issue. i think gingrich had a pretty good argument to be made about the arguments of medicare and ration it, but lost in the media. >> judy, what about pleading the fifth. anything i've said can't be used against me. >> peggy noonen wrote in a column this week, maybe young people would find newt refreshing because they've never seen him before. thises a guy we haven't seen before either. not quite the old newt. one has to wonder. >> well, cal, to be fair to the media, it wasn't just the media that came down on newt. a lot of his fell no conservatives did as well. >> yes, he did. he spent 30 minutes on rush