if the isi and leadership knew, their intelligence leadership knew, that's argue plea a hostile act. what do we do about it? do we ignore it because we need the pakinstanis in the ultimate war on terror? >> as painful as it is and as angry as probably a lot of americans are, we really do need the pakinstanis involved in this. and it's come like a big company. you've got different branches of the government and a lot of the branches of their government and a lot of the agencies in the government are fundamentally opposed to what's being done by the other side. so the isi, very tight organization. a lot of people in the political leadership came out of the military or isi. if they were keeping -- for some reason, osama bin laden felt very, very comfortable living where he was living. let's leave it at that. >> gregg: you know, look, practically speaking, we have personned with nefarious governments before, the soviet union, our partner in world war
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