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appears they want to, because everyone is afraid to say that the full fate and credit of the government is not in play, what should the deal be, if any? >> one time in the 80s, there was an agreement that we would cut so much cash we would raise tacks if we cut twice as much in spending. the republicans got tricked into that. i don't like these deals. what kind of thing can you pass when you pass the debt increase that you can trust? i can't imagine anything that would talk me into voting for it. >> sean: your son rand says a balanced budget amendment would do it for him, if we can get that. >> i would vote for that. but wouldn't make me satisfied to raise the debt. when are you going to get the amendment passed? you have to pass it through the house, senate and those states, five, 10 years from now what is what is wrong with all those budget pro bows als.

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