with another issue. they didn't raise it here and they can't keep raising it piecemeal. there are certain things that are done deals. i don't that i is true. i think they are dragging you down in the weeds. i think you can move this much faster that way >> attorney general feels good about where we are at with the appellate court. it appears those judges on that three judge panel requested information from the d.a. in very short manner. and from that i hear from our attorney general here in wisconsin they feel pretty good about this. >> greta: how can they feel good -- as many cases as i tried i never felt good about what the judges are going to do. they are so unpredict able. van hollen didn't use outside counsel you have to pay outside counsel because you can take free s from lawyers because that is a political gift if you feel so good why