jazeera's values, which are freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, democratic, especially people power, democratic politics. now, those are all as spicial aspirational values. the only instrumental value i saw in al jazeera was anything the government is doing anywhere let's cover it with a skeptical eye. >> bill: i hope you are right. i don't like at it quite that way based on our research. i think that they, al jazeera are anti-american and want to put into power people who will give this country a hard time. but, dave, you acquitted yourself quite well. thank you for the debate. when we come right back, bernie goldberg on charges that my interview with president obama was racist. this may be the lowest ever for the far left. bernie is next.