presidential, we saw it during the campaign, she is in command of the facts and is articulate and, doesn't have to look at her hand for crib sheet notes and this is a woman who is uncommonly talented and that is coming across and we forget that when she's not in the public eye. martha: we gotcha. richard, thank you, and we have to leave it there. we're out of time. a lot of speculation, i guess that will continue for some time. on the topic. bill: would make a wonderful, delicious, juicy story! right, tailor-made for cable news! some cities, so cash strapped they can't afford the basic services that you are used to. is outsourcing the answer? we'll take you to a california town trying to figure that out. martha: plus, he's an architect behind president obama's historic road to the white house but at home david axelrod and his wife have been fighting a different battle. that story, straight ahead. fy÷@>m9