tower? >> the important thing is what you said a few moments ago. this is the first time of history where people consider themselves educated but they're biblically illiterate. >> historically illiterate. >> but imagine people who are the heirs of western civilization not knowing the foundation of western civilization. people are on television all over the place and don't know how many books are in the five books of moses. talking about remarkable effect. people dismissed the bible as some obsolete collection of legends about long forgotten nation. >> glenn: let's say, i don't know, michael moore is watching. say michael is out there and he has cheetos all over himself and he's like, "it's a legend!" look at the legend itself. i don't believe it's a legend. what is it teaching?