it saves taxpayers money? >> where the money is needed is not obese people but the obese government. in terms of them urn courage ing operation, you will have a run on them. it's delicate operations. there will be botched operations and that will lead to malpractice lawsuit. go to free market and let people decide they want to do it instead of politicians. >> david: stephane, should the government be in on this? >> if doctors and patients get together and decide it's the best thing, in some cases states should offer it. i would rather see people exercising and spending $24,000 that the surgeries cost on to better food. in some cases it makes sense. >> in 2004 they wouldn't do