no. and my v.i.p. seat was -- they didn't even check that i just sat like third row up. so it was totally empty. >> bill: was everybody nice to you? >> well, of course they were nice to me. >> bill: if i walked in there, miss holder, i don't believe me, i don't think everybody would be nice to me. i'm not acting facetiously, everybody was respectful and nice to you ever? >> of course. i'm somewhat known in the black community. i do a lot of work with reverend pfleger and father jackson. a lot of people know me. they thought i was from the press because i was taking notes. but the people who were there were definitely nice and welcoming. now, he wasn't on either. so, we didn't have a choice to like cozy up to each other and stay warm. >> bill: okay. chicago press just ignored it. i predicted they would. >> right. >> bill: it's a risk reward. there is too much risk. very little reward. you weren't surprised the chicago press ignored it, right?
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