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actually two props. one is the democrats' 2,000 page health care bill and the other is what i would say the republican idea, would be about this thick and you say, mr. president, here are ideas, you sign on right here i can guarantee you 150 republican votes in the house. >> bret: charles, you still thereof? >> yeah. do you want the right answer? [ laughter ] >> bret: yeah, bring it. >> the right answer is c a trick. here is what you do. you show up and designate one guy who knows a lot about all this health care stuff. a spokesman. you don't have people raising hands and shouting questions. you pick paul ryan who knows this stuff up and down. he is your david. you give him a slingshot and send him up there. >> bret: listen. we don't want you to get in trouble there on the road. we will send you along your way. are you going to come in here or are you going back home? what's happening? >> i'm going to camp out here and i will make a fire and steak for the evening. >> bret: thanks for getting on the horn with us. we will have you back next time. be careful out there. all right. second topic, reconciliation.

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