base where it would be perfectly clear it would not cost $200 million to try him there. he thought that he shouldn't be tried in the civilian court. it was the cost, the security. once everybody understood what was going to happen to lower manhattan they changed their mind so it wasn't idea logical. there are other places that want this trial to nap their communities. they have this -- to happen in their communities. i think it could happen even in the southern district of new york which is where the best terrorism prosecutors are and there are many reasons to have it in there and newberg, new york, is in that district. >> chris: let me ask a question that i asked the blue ribbon panel as opposed to you guys who o are, what, a yellow ribbon panel or something like that. it was eric holder the attorney general who made the calls, one, to hold the trial in new york city. two, either somebody or in the justice department but it is under him to charge or to read