changed because they were always aware of this my daughter we have seen says iraq a high being jewish she's studying in england and england especially at the universities there is a very lively and to some it isn't at the moment and my son studies in the us and there's not such a big profitable that this image is so they see it from their own point of view but it has changed my son my wife and me and my parents ferry much we see. this country now with different us your parents of course being holocaust survivors yes alan posner let's talk about the link which you mentioned between criticism of israel and anti-semitism where and when does the one begin to shade into the other and would you say given germany's crimes that german simply should refrain from criticizing israel altogether oh of course not. look israel is