she became the ruling monarch there. this is jill biden's first audience with her at the castle and although she's jill from philly, the queen has met 12 presidents of the united states since becoming queen. she's probably got this down but it will be interesting to see joe biden now in the top role at the country of the united states getting involved with the queen this time. it will be interesting to watch on sunday when they go to wind sor. >> right, because we all remember when trump met with her and had a hard time figuring out where to walk or the moment from the first lady michelle obama touching the green and everybody was like, she touched the queen. >> exactly, no touching. >> it's awkward, i think, for americans not noting the right protocols. kate bennett, thank you for that. let's turn to sir peter -- the former uk ambassador to the u.s., france and turkey. also the author of they call it diplomacy, 40 years of representing britain abroad and also joining us, david sanger,
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