over stayed their visa. so under stayed their visas so building a wall, while i can certainly agree that there is a room for barrier fencing in the debate over border security, but most of the people here didn't cross the southern border. you're forscoring political points. this is about whipping people up at rallies. he's built this or seeking to build a big extensive wall that won't solve the underlying problem. i would be the first person at the table to have a conversation about border security and immigration if that's what republicans and the president wanted to do but that's not what this is about. >> karen, again, on the campaign trail or debate stage when it gets to be the republican or democrat, the argument i built -- i said i'd build a wall, supreme court agrees with me, i'm doing it is clearer and understandable than a discussion about barrier fencing has a role but, you know, the ramifications
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