reflect these kind of false dichotomies we are having. the reality is that politics and policy should absolutely be about the people. and be about lifting up the people. so all the policies you just rattled off, whether about helping people deal with crushing student debt, making sure that everybody mass health care, making sure the people get a fair shake, the real comparison here is about whether or not we're going to stand for the people or we're going to stand for corporate special interests. i think that that's the dichotomy. it's not socialism versus capitalism. elizabeth warren talks about the fact that snes a smart capitalist. >> she says that. >> and exactly i think some of the stuff turns into wedge sound bites. but at the end of the day if we focus on the people then the democrats win. >> but paul, providing all this stuff for free, it's not free. someone is paying for it. >> well, that's exactly right. and i think when -- when isha talks about focusing on the people i think that's right.
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