debates might have been donald trump. okay, here to discuss is former special adviser president obama and host of the van jones show. van, i have five words for you. what's the matter with kansas? >> i know you hate that book. premised on this idea that people in square states don't know how to vote their economic interests. well, lives would be so much better. i'm hearing tinges of that in these debates. >> surprisingly, i see it differently. i actually think that the party is trying to respond to the social movements that are transforming democratic party. >> yep. >> now there is a danger that we do what we did in '72. '68, nixon got lekted. it just freaked democrats out and democrats then wound up lekting somebody. i think mcgovern lost 143
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