>> john, who would bring it to the courts? is it congress, democrats in congress who would challenge, you know, line by line, the claims of executive privilege? >> that would be the most likely source. and that is actually under the case law that exists one of the weakest sources. when the senate watergate committee tried to get nixon's tapes, they didn't fair well at all. they lost at the lower court level and the appellate court level and never got to the supreme court. the strongest case is somebody on behalf of the courts proceeding. it's theoretically possible they could get to a civil case by asking somebody to testify from the white house, who would refuse, and to produce the documents and refuse. and that could get into the civil proceedings. but as jeff says, these can be very protracted. and it could take a long time to resolve. >> john, you testified in public about your conversations with the president.
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