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president and his allies can make and maybe they will win in court. but being legal and the right thing to do, that's a different argument here. when you're talking about the separation of powers and talking about what some people consider to be an abuse of power, a president going around congress, it is a major, major action and it needs to be noted. >> it does. and this is -- this is a long-term problem and this is a problem that's gone on for a long time before this point where congress has continually seeded its authority to the executive. that was true under obama, bush, and well before that. and ultimately when we talk about having a working appropriations process, it's not really the sexiest issue, but i would tell your viewers, look at the segment that dana bash produced on nita lowey and the ranking member, the first twooim time two women have helmed the operations committee. if we have a working

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