one of them, it appears, may be that contrary to what they said earlier, there were contacts between people affiliated with the trump campaign, perhaps roger stone and wikileaks, and the question will be, is there anything improper or illegal about that? giuliani is asserting no. it may be somewhat more complicated than that. >> right. there's an interesting legal question here, which has to do with what is wikileaks, correct in >> absolutely. if -- you know, if someone tells the trump campaign that cnn is going to report x, y, and z, and then they get that add vanvance knowledge, there's certainly nothing improper about receiving that information. wikileaks is or is not a journalistic organization. when pompeo was director of the cia, he made very clear his view that it was not a journalist