was because he was caught off guard. and this filing makes clear, no, you lied. you were committed to your lies. you said these lies over and over. what stood out to you in this filing that also came with some attachments that were so interesting? >> well, here's the bottom line. and i think everyone is addressing it. everyone, right, is addressing the issue of this president who is a master brander. yes, other presidents have the ability to push the news cycle. but now we have twitter. and as a result of that, when you say something, immediately as the president, it becomes news. and so this is an interim appointment before addressing your core issue, brianna, right? this is the guy who is taking over for good -- it's not even that. so this takes us away from what we were listening to. we were listening to clips of michael cohen talking about he's not going to lie for this president any more. he lied and he's covering up his dirty secrets. and then we switch to the actual flynn issue, and what at its core was really of issue to me, when you look at that, is that
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