national enquirer" have just as a matter of course about donald trump, jerry? >> well, erin, this could well be the smocking gun that the president alluded to a couple weeks ago. i mean, this firmly entrenches him in a huge campaign finance scandal, and it totally backs up michael cohen's testimony, and it says a lot, also, about the loyalty of his friends. >> right. and obviously, in this case, we're talking about david pecker. i mean, let's be clear. you worked there for 28 years. david pecker was a friend of donald trump's. i mean, you know, there was -- you know, in some case, they said, what, donald trump was the silent editor of the "national enquirer." >> that's true. david pecker had given the trump organization free reign to dictate the coverage, and of course, you know, cover up any unflattering stories about the candidate during the election.