much better than that. >> of course. and by most measures, not only the adl's measures, the splc's measures, the global terrorism task force measures, by most measures, by every measure we can find, there's an increase in this right-wing violence and far right violence. whether that's anti-semitic or there's anti-lgbt, anti-muslim, anti-black, anti-immigrant. what the experts believe is that violence correlates to the coarsening of our political rhetoric specifically on the political right, that we saw a massive increase in the militia groups and far right groups after the election of barak obama. but these violence attacks like we saw in pittsburgh and kentucky and like we saw even here at cnn with the bombs being mailed in just a few weeks ago that the way that our political rhetoric has coarsened has only emboldened these types of people and that statements like the president's where he says there are very fine people on both sides of charlottesville, what the experts believe is that those types of statements certainly don't discourage far right-wing violence or nazi
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