the united nations, et cetera. >> you went on to serve as vice president with his son. we know from the books of the times that 41 wasn't always happy with 43, at times wasn't happy with you. yet when it was clear, it was also making sure we can still be friends even though we have disagreements, which is not the way washington works anymore. >> no. what i remember, john meachem's book came out, a biography done on 41. cold out here, but we'll tough it out. in the book there's a passage where they're talking about me as vice president and explaining that i had become something of a hard ass in terms of changing my basic attitude and so forth from being sec def under 41 to being vice president under 43. after that came out and made some news, then i got a note from him that said, dear dick, i
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