they were pick up an auction paddle saying talk to me, both before and after the plea. i don't think this surprises anyone. and i think there's a question if cohen provides valuable information for any of these investigations could he see a reduced sentence? i think that is certainly something his advisers are looking toward. no, i think they're feeling under siege by a lot of these things. i don't expect this is a surprise. >> the relationship between michael cohen -- sometimes tortured relationship between michael cohen and citizen donald trump. >> president trump as roger stone, another trump long-time adviser, had put it to me, the first story i did several months ago. president trump went out of his way to treat michael cohen like, quote unquote, garbage. now, trump is not exactly easy on anyone, as we all know from our reporting. but he could be particularly tough with cohen. trump's allies and current