where do you see this going, what signs do you see there? >> we have in some respects, they both want to get the story over with, but trump -- but mueller really wants to talk to trump. he is willing to compromise in part on written answers. everyone knows they're written by lawyers, not by the subject involved. he is willing to sacrifice some of the oral conversation, but he is willing to get trump under oath. as the book illustrates, trump's lawyers are terrified of putting him in a law enforcement situation. push comes to hoef, there will be no interview here and it will leave mueller with the question of whether or not to much a
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