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that they -- that defeated them but ones that they vested themselves. i was in new hampshire in 2012 when john mccain came there for mitt romney and mitt romney really needed to win new hampshire and keep his momentum from iowa going. i know that went a different direction. but anyway, i could see and couldn't find two people that were more opposite. and yet, john mccain was more than happy to go there, rib mitt romney a little bit, and then tell all of his supporters, could have been the president of new hampshire at that point. >> i think he was. >> i think he was. to get behind mitt romney and that's who he was. we saw that with hillary clinton. we've seen that with others who have given testimonials. he didn't hold a grudge with people who -- and president bush, i mean, my goodness, that was a horribly ugly campaign and he's you'll guysing him. >> he did hold personal judges sometimes, lindsey graham said he could give it to his colleagues. >> i should say i chased him around the hallways with you,

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