we are talking about somebody like robert mueller or whether we are talking about robert fitzgerald. >> sure. >> or whether we are talking about kenneth starr. we remember the questions that were raised about what kind of mandate kenneth starr have investigation those are the questions that still remain to be answered with robert mueller. in mccarthy's case, he was accountable, he was held accountable for what he did wrong and history judged him on the basis of that. >> in mccarthy's case in that same era there was man by the name of ray cohen. mccarthy's side kick attack dog left d.c., becomes a lawyer in new york and who does he end up defending and representing? but donald j. trump. trump talks about him in the art of the deal, learned the art of attack from cohen, respects his