i believe it was the defense and he was asked if he had been talked -- if he had talked to the fbi about the campaign. there was a brief bench conference, discussion with the judge and the attorneys and that was the end of it. now we do know that attorneys have asked for that portion of the bench conference to be sealed so that information about this ongoing investigation can't get out. we do not know the substance. all we know is there was a discussion about it. >> joe johns at the courthouse. thank you. now, let's talk to experts, federal and while cal lollar attorneys. thank you for waking up early for me this morning. >> 10:00 a.m., it's not that early. >> i know you like to snooze. let me get your read on why