the office of government ethics who resigned his position in president trump's first year. walter, good to see you. welcome to the program. you called this a sinister shadow government. explain that. >> well, this is literally the worst-case scenario of a smoke-filled room full of rich guys making decisions and pulling strings like puppet masters. and the worst part is, if it wasn't for isaac's work here, we wouldn't even know about it. and this is precisely the thing that there are laws to prevent. there's a federal advisory committee act that requires you to follow very strict procedures for transparency when you're seeking information from outside groups and the antithesis of following that law is having a smoke-filled room with some cabal of rich guys sitting around a resort in florida making decisions that are going to affect veterans and essentially running a 370,000-person agency.
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