here. they want to pretend they did something about the fact that, for instance, here in kansas city we have huge pressure on emergency services because, you know, we didn't expand medicaid in the state so a lot of folks don't have health care. they end up using the emergency room. that's a real problem. but they're pretending to solve it. in a lot of ways that check in the box, that's more dangerous than if they were to do nothing. >> let's bring in steven now. democrats called this junk insurance. that's what they say, that's a quote, junk insurance among the shortcomings, they don't cover preexisting conditions. doesn't that leave out an enormous pool of people who won't be able to get coverage? >> well, look, what you and jason have been talking about actually would apply to obamacare. i mean, jason, every promise that was made under obamacare has turned out to have been a lie. >> preexisting conditions? >> well, i'm talking about the fact that everyone would be covered. there are still 25 to 30 million people who don't have health insurance. by the way, that's the group of people that were trying to get insurance for. but why are so many people

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