if you pretended to solve the problem, then people walk around thinking the problem is solved but it's still there. that's what the trump administration is trying to do. they want to pretend they did something -- for instance, in kansas city there's pressure on emergency services because we didn't expand medicaid. a lot of people use the emergency room and don't have health care. that's a problem. but they're pretending to solve it. in a lot of ways that checking the box is more dangerous than doing nothing. >> steven, democrats call this junk insurance. among the shortcomings, they don't cover preexisting conditions. doesn't that leave out an enormous pool of people who won't be able to get coverage? >> well, look, what you and jason have been talking about actually would apply to obama care. jason, every promise that was made under obama care has turned out to have been a lie. >> preexisting conditions? >> i'm talking about the fact that everyone would be covered. there's still 25 to 30 million
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