it. if you got -- if you think you got a pretty good case, maybe you don't want cohen's baggage. the southern district is different. may want to prosecute other people. then they got to worry about thinks baggage. and i think everyone knows the southern district is not happy about publicity. i try to be careful not to put out tapes but respond to what they say. >> rudy giuliani, thank you, we appreciate you all of the time. thanks so much, hope you liked the coffee. >> i did. it was worth it. thanks so much. >> jeffrey toobin is standing by and will analyze everything the president's attorney just told us next.