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currently under 3,000 children in total still in custody, who have been separated from their parents. that includes 100 children under the age of 5. what's notable here, this is not a precise tally. they will not give us more exact figures than that very broad under 3,000 metric. here's secretary azhar today. >> i want to be really clear. a couple of you have said the word 3,000. i want to be clear it is under 3,000. i want to give you an outer bound, under 3,000. that is the maximum set. it will not be 3,000, it will not be close to 3,000. it will be under 3,000. >> reporter: one other detail did come from this call, they said zero have been reunited with their familiesy that's significant and all this back and forth about the numbers is important because the last figure we had last tuesday, nine

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