have to worry about the sentencing guidelines. >> so i hear you on that. let me bounce this to you, garber, because where's the there there? there is no case. i get the sentencing guidelines, but we don't even have charges. so what is there to flip on, and what would he have to flip with? >> yeah. so here's the problem. i've represented a lot of folks under investigation, and the problem is before you even get to the sentencing guidelines, there's the investigation. i mean think of michael cohen. think of being him and having your office raided, reading about yourself every day in the newspaper, having your career taken away from you, everything, and potentially losing your livelihood, everything, everything, everything. and that, that notion alone, focuses the mind. >> all right. and many of us in the media, we talk to michael cohen. i certainly do. this has been difficult for him, but we still don't know what the case is about, so we really don't know where the sympathies should lie. another point for you, jeffrey,
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