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south carolina because everybody moved into mill villages and immediately started eating processed food because they weren't growing their food anymore. the second thing that happened is there was a massive amount of expertise that was lost during the civil war. >> anthony: a lot of the southern revival, the whole turnaround started with this guy, glenn roberts. a man who asked a simple question -- how come grits aren't as good as they used to be? and by starting the heirloom grain company anson mills, decided to do something about it. so why do this? why does something as unwanted, meaning nobody was particularly crying out, "you know what we need? we need rice that used to taste like it did in 1837. we need grits, better grits." what called to you that you felt compelled to answer? >> glenn: i'm a cuisine whore, you know? i think that culture is interactive with cuisine, as soon as you look at cuisine,

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