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its ultimate goal regime change. so any agreements made with iran that reduce the level of sanctions against it i think is a big problem for the united states policy. so i think that they want to therefore put extra pressure on other areas which are not actually part of the original iran nuclear agreement up is as ballistic missile testing and things like that for example. >> so let's talk about considering what you just said the approach then. even though our close european allies want the u.s. to stay in, this is probably somewhat as well about america first. we do what we want in the trum t era. he certainly did things thhis w with north korea. maybe his hard line approach could work with iran? >> i think the hard line approach never really ended. i think that it was really the fact that iran had used his opportunities in the middle east very well you could say after the iraq war. and i think that the nuclear agreement if you like was a great breakthrough and victory for coercive diplomacy, but in

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